Video Noise Reduction in Resolve Part 2: Neat Video OFX Plug-In

Video Noise Reduction in DaVinci Resolve: The Neat Video OFX Plug-In

December 9, 2013

We explored video noise reduction in DaVinci Resolve 10 earlier. In this tutorial you look at the OpenFX plug-in, Neat Video, and compare the differences.


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Dealing with Video Noise Reduction In Resolve: Neat Video

In Part 1 we explored Davinci Resolve 10’s built-in video noise reduction tools – which are good. But can they be bested? Perhaps…

OpenFX meets Noise Reduction
Over the past few years, the team at Neat Video has made a name for themselves – creating amazing noise reduction plug-ins for a plethora of hosts such as Final Cut Pro, Premiere Pro, Avid and many others. Recently, they’ve released an OFX plugin (version 3.5) that now works in DaVinci Resolve.

In this second installment of my series I’m presenting on noise reduction, we’ll take a look at the new OFX plugin from Neat and compare it to the built-in tools in Resolve.

I have to say, I’ve really been looking forward to this release, as I’ve depended on Neat Video in other plugin hosts for years. However, I was unsure if the plugin was worth the cost ($199) vs the built-in tools so I decided to put it to the test. A big thank you to Vlad and the team at Neat for the hookup on the plugin.

Resolve vs. Neat Video Plug-in
Keep in mind, that native noise reduction is only available if you’re using the full version of Resolve. So, if you’re using the Lite version of Resolve, the conversation gets much, much more interesting. You’ll have to weigh purchasing the full version of Resolve ($999) vs the OFX plugin from Neat ($199) (which works in both versions of the application) for you’re noise reduction needs.

You’ll have to watch the Insight to check the results, but I’ll say the video noise reduction results are pretty similar between Resolve’s built-in noise reduction and Neat Video but with a slight edge to one of the tools…

Thanks to Martha Conboy for the shot!

Questions? Comments? Use the comments below to start a discussion on this Insight. Or ask a question if something I did confuses you.

– Robbie


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    • Steve Sebban
      Guest

      Now the hard question is this: having Neat for FCP & Full Resolve, should I upgrade my neat license to OFX or not… From your insight, I understand that I don’t have to.


    • Patrick Inhofer
      Guest

      If all you use are Neat’s ‘Auto’ toolset (which is what Robbie explored in this video) – you’ll probably not miss the plug-in in Resolve. I’ve found Resolve’s built-in Temporal NR to be *extremely* robust and useful.

      But if you regularly need to dig into the advanced tools in Neat on FCP… you’ll probably miss those in Resolve. If you email the Neat guys directly, they have upgrade pricing if you so choose.

      I don’t know if Robbie would agree with me or not…


    • RobbieCarman
      Guest

      Well let me first say – that I have Neat for most tools that I use – Resolve, FCP, Premiere Pro etc. I realize that not everyone will do that but I like having the flexibility to use it where ever I go.

      Next, I would agree with Pat – On the shot featured in the Insight, yes it was very very close, but I’ve found Neat to have this small edge or much larger one depending on the shot. I think the ability to have more frames as part of the temporal process, and adaptive noise reduction are HUGE. And as Pat points out, diving into the full manual controls of Neat that I only just showed quickly – you can easily out perform the built in tools – but that takes some considerable amount of tweaking.

      Also, I’m sorry I didn’t show this in the video as I’m still trying to get clarification on from the various dev teams. One thing I really like in FCP/Premiere Pro versions of Neat is the ability to Optimize it for your system with number of cores, and the GPUs in your system. For example I’ve been able to get the renders on my main workstation to be faster than realtime in FCP and Premiere.

      This functionality for optimizing exists in the OFX version, but I’ve also heard that OFX plugins can only leverage one GPU per the Resolve frame work. Still waiting to hear if the 1 GPU limitation is 100% universal or different OFX developers can use more than one GPU.

      My point is on my main workstation (4x GTX Titans + GTX 760 GUI) after optimizing (which may or may not be doing anything!) Neat generally has better playback performance – but thats unscientific more gut feeling.

      Finally, some of this is familiarity and trust. So far I’ve had a lot of situations with the built in tools where I’ve had some weird aliasing etc. But applying Neat – I have had no problems. Over the years I’ve just relied on Neat and I’m probably just not as good with the built in tools yet.

      At the end of the day for me – Neat is more familiar, slightly faster and produces slightly better results. Is that worth the price? For me – yes I think so as it gives me added flexibility to the built in tools.


    • Tom P
      Member

      I had been waiting for this tutorial on the Neat noise reduction software for Resolve for weeks. It’s exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you Robbie. You’ve clarified a number of questions I had on my mind regarding Neat and the built-in Resolve noise reduction. You guys Rock!


    • Chris Climer
      Guest

      Hey Robbie thanks for taking the time to do this. You mentioned that there are more advanced settings to noise reduce per color channel. I was wondering if I can take your take insight and combine it with Dan’s insight on splitting the channels and putting the plug in on the channel node that needs the most work?


    • Patrick Inhofer
      Guest

      Absolutely! In fact, that’s a very effective way of dealing with Noise Reduction while minimizing new artifacts. Go for it.


    • RobbieCarman
      Guest

      Chris – Sorry its taking me a while to get back to you – my wife and I just had our second kid – so I’m just getting back in the swing of things. Two things – of course you can what you suggested and Pat endorsed below. However, within Neat there are advanced controls – see screen shot. They work for more detailed control but they also are limited to YCbCr. Like most things its usually a combination of approaches that works best.


    • Juha
      Guest

      “You’ll have to weigh purchasing the full version of Resolve ($999) vs the OFX plugin from Neat ($199) (which works in both versions of the application) for you’re noise reduction needs.”

      Maybe some update needed:
      At the moment Resolve Studio’s price is $299
      https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/


    • Pat Inhofer
      Guest

      Indeed.

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